jhbhb 发表于 2005-9-18 21:46

DIY 35W HID探照灯

<P>一直想把手上几套车用35W HID 套件做成手电,不过东西实在大了点,只能做成手提探照灯,在淘宝易趣上翻了好久,甚至每次到义乌福田市场都要去逛逛手电的摊位,终于在淘宝上找到一款比较适合改造的探照灯。到手后,把里面的东西全部拆空,就留了反光碗和外壳,今天全部组装完毕。<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591813464163768.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591813464163768.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br>先上个光斑图,中午1点多拍的,外面阳光明媚,5米距离<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059181349937767.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059181349937767.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059181351556271.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059181351556271.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br>铝合金的反光碗<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591813521317551.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591813521317551.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br>原反光碗后面那一截较长,锯掉剩5mm,此时焦距刚好。再请人做了个铜圈,飞利浦的氙气灯泡上磨个小口,直接用螺丝固定在铜座了<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591813561843263.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591813561843263.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br>电池,安定器,开关。电池是新的笔记本电池组上用的18650规格1.2V4AH镍氢电池,拆了2块电池组,一共16节,从里面筛选了10节,经实测,容量接近4Ah,安定器是海拉的,开关用继电器控制。</P><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059181424160897.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059181424160897.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br>点到41分钟时,电压还有11.51V,到57分钟时,电压降到10.8V,并且下降速度明显变快,灯还亮着,为保护电池,断开了开关,试了一下重起已不能重新启动。<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059181461848863.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059181461848863.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br>稳定后电流都在3.4-3.6A之间,启动时超过了电流表的5A量程。
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sajia 发表于 2005-9-18 22:07

<P>不错``可惜还是安定器太大了``听说最小的35w安定器接近烟盒了。</P>
<P>对了?楼主知否35w安定器高低压保护各多少?看能否使用锂电池?看来就算能用也要9-12节锂电才能支持这么大放电阿</P>
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ghost 发表于 2005-9-18 22:19

<P>10节镍氢?是不是太多了点啊?镍氢充满是大概1.3v多点吧,10节就13v的样子,可以工作到10.8v,不错啊</P>
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<P>一套花费大概多少啊?以后可以搞根电池腰带,用18650的锂电,3串n并的那种,安定器也放腰上,灯头就可以轻很多了啊^_^</P>

jhbhb 发表于 2005-9-18 22:26

<P>安定器额定电压12V,汽车发动机运转时蓄电池电压有14V,看来14V的电压对于安定器应该没有任何问题。测试的时候最低一次是在10.3V时还亮着,但断开后就不能重起能闪几下,已经不能持续点亮了。估计是由于重起时电流在5A以上,电池压降太大。如果供电能力良好的话,可能10.3V还能继续工作。小尺寸的35W安定器好像是有,不过我想它的效率和寿命肯定不能和大的比。</P>

jhbhb 发表于 2005-9-18 22:37

我是用电动工具用的快速充电器充的,充满时空载电压有13.7V,10节镍氢我还嫌不够多呢,只能用一个小时,可惜没电池了,要不然就塞20节进去,那就有2小时的续航时间。探照灯160,电池板35元一块,灯泡和安定器是汽车大灯上拆下了,没花钱。如果单独购买的话好像是飞利浦灯泡600,海拉安定器1000以上。

jhbhb 发表于 2005-9-18 22:47

<P>新拍了几张图<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591920555066496.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591920555066496.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />目标是30米外的一个小山坡<br></P><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591920581339699.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591920581339699.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br>这是3节18490点12V1250mA氙气灯泡的亮度,其实已经很亮了。<a href="http://www.shoudian.org/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=10&amp;ID=12229&amp;replyID=&amp;skin=1" target="_blank" >http://www.shoudian.org/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=10&amp;ID=12229&amp;replyID=&amp;skin=1</A><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059192135018742.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059192135018742.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059192152690431.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059192152690431.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br>大概300米外的房子,灯一打开就已经听见远处好多狗在狂叫了。
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sajia 发表于 2005-9-18 23:03

哈!神马跟神马啊?

ghost 发表于 2005-9-18 23:57

<P>晕......一套hid的套件就要1600以上.......10w的又不够爽,嗯,咬咬牙搞个35w的玩玩:)</P>
<P>对了,手提探照灯的灯碗应该是塑料镀铝的吧?吃的消否?</P>

jhbhb 发表于 2005-9-19 00:41

<P>这个灯是铝合金灯碗的,还比较厚,镀层看上去很不错。原来是12V30W卤素灯泡。现在一些国产的汽车改装用35WHID套件一套(2个灯泡,2个安定器)也就1800左右,不过质量跟海拉的肯定没法比了</P>

太阳神 发表于 2005-9-19 00:43

<P>楼主终于搞成功手提HID了?恭喜恭喜啊!巨亮极毒.</P>
<P>我早就想搞了也做过金属碗的点亮实验,最终没有搞.</P>
<P>优点咱就不说了,因为不用说大家自己想吧.</P>
<P>我做人不好喜欢说缺点,而且是我自认为这种车用HID的缺点:</P>
<P>一<A>\\\\\\</A>车用的HID最致命的是灯管,它的放电的二个极点距离太长,电弧太长的后果就是聚光太差,除非用很大的灯碗,象用虎头大小的灯碗的话,几乎可以说快没有聚光了.</P>
<P>二<A>\\\\\\</A>这的安定器太大,因为它是以能长时间稳定工作为第一要素的.它还防尘防水防剧烈震动防电磁干扰防高温防低温......这些统统都是缺点而不是优点.我们的手电不是放在车内恶劣环境里的需要多加重量多加金钱来严密保护的东东.</P>
<P>三<A>\\\\\\</A>它的效率也不高.因为车载的电源充足,成本问题,效率低点能降低一块钱也是和对手竞争的法宝.改装汽车的人,关心的是亮度\\寿命\\色温\\灯的功率,有谁关心过它电路的耗电?关心过它的效率?关心过它的电路引起的发热是否手摸上去太热?</P>
<P>四<A>\\\\\\</A>还有神马和神马来着,LD要出门了,先闪.</P>

jhbhb 发表于 2005-9-19 01:09

<P>呵呵,35W的亮度是很爽,3200流明。就是大了点。35W的灯管两个电极距离大概4mm左右,我试过50mm灯碗,70mm投影机反光碗,都不能达到理想效果,不过这次用的灯碗是105mm直径,聚光可就很爽了,晚上有空去拍几张光束。效率和升温好像还不错,12V电压时,电流3.4A,耗电40.8W,11V时,电流3.6A,灯管是35W,效率85%-88%,升温根本没有问题,点了半个多小时,手摸上去还没有探索者点2分钟以后温度高。</P>
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KinK 发表于 2005-9-19 05:49

多重?

gqh 发表于 2005-9-19 06:26

KK 发表于 2005-9-19 06:30

恭喜恭喜,终于搞成功手提HID了

太阳神 发表于 2005-9-19 07:15

<P>效率85%-88%,升温根本没有问题,点了半个多小时,手摸上去还没有探索者点2分钟以后温度高。</P>
<P>很好啊!但是:</P>
<P>你的东东档次高啊,平时车上用的2000以上一对的,成本只有.....</P>
<P>唉,有几个能买这么档次的来做手电呢?</P>

jhbhb 发表于 2005-9-19 07:17

1.8kg重,好像就是黑豹802,有个豹头的标志。大电流放电还是镍氢安全些,还便宜,8节的全新笔记本电池板只要35元。组成电池组的成本可以控制在50元以内。晚上出去晃了一圈,专门跑到路灯还没亮的一段新路上,只见一道笔直的光束扫过去,发现50米以外的角落里停了一辆桑塔纳,车里还一男一女,有点慌乱的样子,马上点着车子走了,不小心坏了他们的好事,呵呵。

jhbhb 发表于 2005-9-19 07:25

找保险公司的朋友帮忙,他们会把事故车上换下的配件带回公司,有些换下的大灯总成上的安定器和灯泡都还是好的,我就是这样得来的。还有就是找汽车4S店,他们那里换下来的东西更多。买新的改就不划算了。

太阳神 发表于 2005-9-19 07:53

<P>哦.....</P>
<P>钱都烧光了,能省就省啊!</P>
<P>不过如果能以贩养吸就好了...</P>

killerwc 发表于 2005-9-19 20:24

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>jhbhb</I>在2005-9-18 23:25:55的发言:</B><BR>找保险公司的朋友帮忙,他们会把事故车上换下的配件带回公司,有些换下的大灯总成上的安定器和灯泡都还是好的,我就是这样得来的。还有就是找汽车4S店,他们那里换下来的东西更多。买新的改就不划算了。</DIV>
<br>看来拿去捉野鸳鸯不错哦

失地农民 发表于 2005-9-19 22:06

<P>真是爽呀,来点野外的光斑看看,最好 能有对比的。</P>
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