MicSDcn 发表于 2023-2-1 07:43

钛制品或致癌?

本帖最后由 MicSDcn 于 2023-2-1 10:25 编辑

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PBX2 发表于 2023-2-1 08:12

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说到食品承装金属容器,估计最早出现的是铅和锡,那时候铅和锡都是做酒具的材料,原因估计是比较好加工,有没有毒?肯定有毒而且毒死不少人。接着估计就是青铜器,有没有毒?氧化后肯定有毒,一样毒死不少人。在接下来应该是铝,有没有毒,肯定有毒,但是铝属于活泼金属,表面形成的氧化铝膜很致密,所以使用起来因为铝中毒的不是很多。
现在出现了一种又轻又硬又耐腐蚀的钛!有没有毒?继续延伸阅读推导----比如现在给人体置换的关节以及各种骨头几乎都是钛做的,原因就是它轻巧耐腐蚀耐磨硬度大。http://www.chusan.com/zhongkao/67822.html。
有的病人不能吃氯化钠做的食盐,只能换成氯化钾来吃,有毒吗?吃起来是无毒的。但是!静脉推注氯化钠可以吗,当然是可以的。要是推注氯化钾可以吗?完全不行!!!用不了一分钟就会死人!!而且没法救活!!!
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acer2017 发表于 2023-2-1 08:34

考虑一下,呼吸的空气中有氧,食物中有碳,二者在一定条件下可以反应生成二氧化碳和一氧化碳,浓度达到一定程度会{:5_613:}{:5_627:}

xsw2 发表于 2023-2-1 08:47

喝个水能把二氧化钛颗粒喝到血液里去?

按照这个逻辑. 你把日常吃喝的油盐酱醋米,直接打血液里头. 估计没几个不致癌不堵塞的.

MicSDcn 发表于 2023-2-1 08:53

PBX2 发表于 2023-2-1 08:12
说到食品承装金属容器,估计最早出现的是铅和锡,那时候铅和锡都是做酒具的材料,原因估计是比较好加工,有 ...

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MicSDcn 发表于 2023-2-1 08:56

xsw2 发表于 2023-2-1 08:47
喝个水能把二氧化钛颗粒喝到血液里去?

按照这个逻辑. 你把日常吃喝的油盐酱醋米,直接打血液里头. 估计没 ...

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MicSDcn 发表于 2023-2-1 08:59

acer2017 发表于 2023-2-1 08:34
考虑一下,呼吸的空气中有氧,食物中有碳,二者在一定条件下可以反应生成二氧化碳和一氧化碳,浓度达到一定 ...

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318209hq 发表于 2023-2-1 09:10

吓得我瑟瑟发抖,我是钛锅和钛的筷子

安和桥北 发表于 2023-2-1 09:24

当兵时摔碎了左手腕的舟状骨,
四根钢针打的封定,现在还有一颗螺钉在骨头里,
当时说的就是钛合金,不影响安检和核磁共振。
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szman 发表于 2023-2-1 09:27

这个是吸入以后才致癌,和其它任何粉末一样。就像你每天切割瓷砖吸入陶瓷粉尘最后也会致癌一样。

作为金属氧化物化学性质是非常稳定的,作为餐具日常使用没有任何问题。


wjbsz508 发表于 2023-2-1 09:28

钛制品容易有划痕,即容易脱落,不管对身体有没有影响,个人觉得吃进身体里不是好事,所以钛有凸出优点,但一直没有买钛用品(除了钥匙扣)

xu1491 发表于 2023-2-1 09:49

二氧化钛性质极其稳定,用来刷墙当白灰比石灰之类更耐久更白
一般的盐酸硫酸都不反应,浓硫酸都要加热才反应
人体根本不吸收,怎么吃的怎么拉出来
类似的硫酸钡,钡是有毒的重金属,但拍消化道X光时硫酸钡可以直接喝一大杯当造影剂,一样的不吸收,原样拉出来
美国食品药品管理局规定二氧化钛可以作为所有的食品白色素,最大的使用量为1g/kg。
因为良好的吸收和反射紫外线,纳米级的二氧化钛粉也经常用在各种防晒霜中,擦在脸上身上
解释清楚了没

PBX2 发表于 2023-2-1 09:51

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MicSDcn 发表于 2023-2-1 08:53
钛一般广泛意义是指钛元素,这里想讨论的是钛锈 TiO2
那好吧,估计你的化学成绩应该不差吧,请问钛合金制品(咱们这里先不说纯净钛金属先说更多的钛合金)怎么才能变成二氧化钛?{:5_596:}
http://www.chusan.com/zhongkao/67822.html
请不要细思极恐,就像我们搞铅锡焊接一样,总有人觉得铅对人体有害,去看看有多少搞铅锡焊接的得了铅中毒?{:5_616:}
我新买的西铁城光动能电波表就是钛合金的,天天24小时戴在手上,就连洗澡都不摘掉,是不是也该中毒翘辫子了{:5_604:}


MicSDcn 发表于 2023-2-1 09:58

szman 发表于 2023-2-1 09:27
这个是吸入以后才致癌,和其它任何粉末一样。就像你每天切割瓷砖吸入陶瓷粉尘最后也会致癌一样。

作为金属 ...

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彩虹糖:

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MicSDcn 发表于 2023-2-1 10:02

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PBX2 发表于 2023-2-1 09:51
那好吧,估计你的化学成绩应该不差吧,请问钛合金制品(咱们这里先不说纯净钛金属先说更多的钛合金)怎么 ...
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MicSDcn 发表于 2023-2-1 10:07

xu1491 发表于 2023-2-1 09:49
二氧化钛性质极其稳定,用来刷墙当白灰比石灰之类更耐久更白
一般的盐酸硫酸都不反应,浓硫酸都要加热才反 ...

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PBX2 发表于 2023-2-1 10:15

MicSDcn 发表于 2023-2-1 10:02
主要想讨论的是纯钛制品,水杯炒锅等

钛氧化的反应方程式为 Ti+O2==TiO2


化学方程式成立!但是钛加氧气可是不能直接变成二氧化钛的!!!更何况空气中的氧气含量是多少?!你的化学是语文老师教的!{:5_625:}

MicSDcn 发表于 2023-2-1 10:24

谢谢指正

PBX2 发表于 2023-2-1 10:15
化学方程式成立!但是钛加氧气可是不能直接变成二氧化钛的!!!更何况空气中的氧气含量是多少?!你的化 ...

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古路坪 发表于 2023-2-1 10:25

我买的钛水杯还没有收到,怎么办,没有质量问题又不能退。早发两天就不买了。

bingyang 发表于 2023-2-1 10:29

二氧化钛已用于食品添加剂和防晒霜,目前来看还是安全的,锅具脱落的那点量和食品添加剂比可以忽略不计了
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